obamesqueAmerica’s chickens are coming home to roost.
Do you think you know the truth about the ex-Marine who has been Barack Obama’s pastor? Did you learn it watching excerpts, carefully clipped to support the assertion that he’s an extremist?
I dare you to see his “coming home to roost” remarks in context. If you aren’t brave enough to invest ten minutes to go back to September of 2001, as painful as some of those memories are, knowing he has been taken out of context by those who wish to tear him down, if you fear your ideas might be shaken by the truth, then I submit you don’t know enough to judge this man.
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The racial problem in this country is a black behavior problem. There’s lots of earnest discussions about it, and liberals mostly blame “hidden racism,” but this is the essential reality. No liberal will admit this, and that’s why it’s an intellectually bankrupt philosophy. This behavior problem is the reason whites move to suburbs. It’s the reason blacks die so frequently in shootouts. It’s the reason blacks do worse in school, save less, have worse credit, and make neighborhoods less pleasant places to be. Some of this might be endemic, but black America, working with the same raw material, was not always this screwed up.
Yes, of course, there are many exceptions to this rule. There are decent, humane, polite, Christian, and civilized black people. But they are not so numerous as they should be (or once were) and, most important, they tend to make excuses for their less well behaved brothers and sisters. In positions of leadership, their pandering is immense. Notice Obama asks much of white America–support for affirmative action, understanding of Wright and his raucous church–but only asks blacks to believe that this terrible weight of oppression can be lifted by supporting him and his run-of-the-mill liberal program, uniting with whites to go after evil corporations.
Jeremiah Wright denies this black behavior problem exists and projects the various deficiencies, disorders, and hatreds of the black community on whites. He has to justify this rampant all-consuming hatred–hatred he foments every Sunday–with something, so he creates and recreates a bogeyman: the legions of white racists who continue to hold down black people. There is much smoke here, but almost no fire.
Barack says, in effect, Wright’s is a correct analysis of the problem. Blacks at worst exacerbate or contribute to their own racism-caused problems. But he also says there’s hope for change through something he wants us to forget we’ve been trying for thirty years: liberal government programs and white acknowledgement of their current and past racist actions, including such egregious sins as his grandmother being scared of thuggish young black men.
This is not a patriotic, humane, or sensible approach to the issue. It is, at best, the simulation of a courageous address about race. Obama falls back on the stale diagnosis and stale solutions of LBJ and the Great Society.
I’ve listened. And your point is what? He doesn’t understand history? I agree. That he is equating the bombing of Japan with the atomic bomb that saved over a million lives with terrorism? Are you kidding? You agree with a fool seeking to justify his world view? Are you kidding? Read some history, it will do you some good.
In contrast to the comment by Mr. Roach, who dismisses the racial divide as something caused simply by black people misbehaving, I see a much more complex problem that is caused by many things, with only one common feature. This common feature is a belief that race is the cause of anything. Blackness does not cause any ‘misbehavior’, and membership (deserved or not) in some other racial group does not cause acceptable ‘behaviors’.
Contextualizing a set of remarks, such as those spoken by Jeremiah Wright, is appropriate, and thank you for offering context. That is what Senator Obama’s speech did as well.
Mr Roach should perhaps read my own blog post on patriotism. It might contextualize his remarks about ‘Liberals.’
http://betteramerica.wordpress.com/category/progressive/
Shame on you, Mr. Roach.
“a black behavior problem”?
What planet are you from? Mongo?
Perhaps you should have quoted My Fair Lady: ‘Why can’t a woman be more like a man?”
Having lived in six states with various amounts of ethnicity , I can assure you that this is not a black behavior problem.
Some people are raised to be racist. Some are raised to fear anything that is not ‘them’. Color is one issue, and when it is not color it is religion, and when it is not religion it is wealth, and when it is not wealth it is the area of country you live in, and then it is something else. The list goes on and on and on.
Man’s nature is to accept things as they are until somebody trains them to hate and fear and loathe the thing that makes them fearful. Whether the trainer is the ethnic/religious person themself or it’s your mother or your father or your preacher or your uncle is not relevant.
And by the way you can drop the use of the word ‘civilized’ when referring to black Americans. they are all civilized. Unfortunately , sir, you are not.
I assert that your self-confidence exceeds your intelligence.
>There is much smoke here, but almost no fire.
I am all for accepting responsibility for one’s mistakes, failures, and circumstances. But taking responsibility does not negate the need for us to look for larger endemic causes and conditions. None of us exists in isolation. The “black behavior problems” that you refer to are not “black” problems so much as they are problems of poverty and lack of educational opportunities. These same “problems” exists in poor communities throughout the United States and around the world regardless of the ethnicity or “race” of those who experience them. The deeper “problem” we face is for us to realize that as long as any one of us falls into the abyss of hopelessness, no one can be truly safe and secure–and by “we” I mean humanity as a whole. Barack, I believe, gets this.
>There is much smoke here, but almost no fire.
I am all for accepting responsibility for one’s mistakes, failures, and circumstances. But taking responsibility does not negate the need for us to look for larger endemic causes and conditions. None of us exists in isolation. The “black behavior problems” that you refer to are not “black” problems so much as they are problems of poverty and lack of educational opportunities. These same “problems” exist in poor communities throughout the United States and around the world regardless of the ethnicity or “race” of those who experience them. The deeper “problem” we face is for us to realize that as long as any one of us falls into the abyss of hopelessness, no one can be truly safe and secure–and by “we” I mean humanity as a whole. Barack, I believe, gets this.
It’s not a question of causation. It’s a question of where we are. What’s actually happening. There’s a million reasons there are disparities between the races, but they exist, and Obama and Wright blame them all on imaginary white racism.
Did you listen to the speech? The “black behavior problem” you refer to is a result of that separate but equal crap. Blacks were uneducated because slave masters killed the smart ones, in fear of a rebellion. Then after blacks were freed from slavery, until 50 years ago THIS NATION supported an inferior life for it’s black citizens. And Wright grew up in this environment. So for you to say that there is a “black behavior problem”, it’s because white america caused it! Your closed minded ignorance is the most offensive thing of all! Google the words “Tuskegee experiments” the next time you act like blacks have a problem. Blacks did not start this race war. Remember that! America has turned it’s back on the rights of it’s black citizens from it’s conception & BEFORE it’s declaration if independence.
Yeah I am a blackman and totally denounce and reject what Mr. Roach said in his comment though he is allowed to have one no matter how idiotic it sounds. He sounds like a closet racist who would only express his thoughts in cyberspace where he can hide his true racist feeling.
Whether you like it or not Mr. Roach there is still alot ofracism in this country and we just made strides for equal rights in the 1960’s when laws were still in place to oppress black americans. You sir are a dying breed and we cant to put the last bit of dirt of your coffin of racist ideals.
You probably have children now who identify with the black americans and it just affirms your hidden racism that you really can’t explain what it originates from. You suck and your name is a perfect fit for your character, quick to run when the light are on.
Sorry, my comment was for Mr. Roach. Who I can’t figure out. Thinking that black people should just instantly get over it, he is not understanding why “The chickens are coming home to roost!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqPUXjFYh38
Actually watch the WHOLE thing in context please.
Then this one too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESVTGEOK_O8
The only Rev. Wright you know is what you see in a clip on the news. When you see him in full context, you may change your view.
Oh lord. La cucaracha.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080317/cm_huffpost/091774;_ylt=Aq_lH72YCCxOlaE1vskCJXms0NUE
Mr Roach in his own words:
“There’s a million reasons there are disparities between the races, but they exist, and Obama and Wright blame them all on imaginary white racism.”
“The racial problem in this country is a black behavior problem.”
Anyone else get a chuckle out of this oxymoron?
There’s no logical inconsistency. There are many disparities between the races. Disparities is another word for differences, and thus I’m saying there are many differences in behavior, particularly in bad behavior. There is more bad black behavior, and it hurts blacks the most. Crime, poverty, bad school performance, illegitimacy, and all the rest are much higher among blacks. Now Wright and Obama see this and basically admit this, but blame white racism. Look at Obama’s Jena Six speech sometime. I see this and say, “first, let’s look at this as the problem, and not simply the symptom of the problem.” And I say, second, “let’s not look at deep root causes explanations because they’re impossible to prove or disprove and may not yield the right kind of solutions to deal with what is happening now.” Finally, I say, “Let’s stop encouraging, apologizing, and rationalizing this disparity in bad behavior. Let’s just call it wrong and counter-productive. When black leaders did this in the past, there was less bad behavior.”
Mr. Roach. You state that there are “a million reasons” for the disparities between the races. Then you point out that the “racial problem in this country is a black behavior problem”.
How did we go from 1,000,000 to 1? Or are you saying that “black behavior problems” are what cause the other 999,999 reasons?
Mr. Roach, “Crime, poverty, bad school performance, illegitimacy, and all the rest are much higher among blacks.”
Are you suggesting that black people are *born* to be more criminal? Impoverished? Perform Poorly in School? Be born out of wedlock?
May I suggests a course in reading comprehension. The disparities are the behaviors. They are the ways we’re different. Are we born that way? Partly. While I don’t think genetics are destiny for indivdiuals, I think our average IQs are different on average by a full standard deviation. But this was true 100 years ago, and back then black crime and black illegitimacy was lower, so clearly culture plays a big part too, as do additudes by black leaders. Where they once said, “be a credit to your race,” they now say, “God Damn America.” It’s a big change, and it’s made black life worse and disreputable.
It’s called a multi-causal problem. But I’m surprised you’re having so much trouble understanding a fairly simple point.
PS There is no racism of consequence today. Blacks just behave worse for reasons having nothing to do with racism.
Mr. Roach is getting snide… Good for you
Your attorney egoism is fascinating, topped only by your ostentatious rhetoric.
Let’s follow you logic. Again, your words:
“There’s a million reasons there are disparities between the races…”
“The racial problem in this country is a black behavior problem.”
“The disparities are the behaviors.”
To sum up:
There are 1MM reasons for the disparities
The problems are black behavior (1 reason)
The disparities are the behaviors?
Yes, differences in behavior certainly qualify as disparity. There must be 1MM behavioral differences that make up the million reasons for the disparity, right?
Now, come to think about it, you might be right because I can’t think of a single white American who ever said God Damn America.
Well, except Timothy Mcveigh. And perhaps Robert E. Lee and the whole of the Confederate States of America. Oh, let’s not forget Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. And that guy Benedict Arnold. Oh, and Aaron Burr. And Lee Harvey Oswald. John Wilkes Booth. And the list goes on and on.
Again, your own words point out your over all arrogance:
“PS There is no racism of consequence today.”
Loss of life is of no consequence? I believe at this point you are merely being antagonistic.